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Black-throated Accentor

Prunella atrogularis atrogularis Brandt, 1844
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Рауф БайрашевfounderadminAdministrator
runs Birds.kz 9 March 2009
Black-throated Accentor, photo 2 of 4 — Рауф Байрашев
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© Рауф Байрашев · 9 March 2009
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😍 beautiful Аскар Исабеков

Where and when

Place
Almaty, "Kamenskoe Plateau"
Date
9 March 2009
Coordinates
43.18317, 76.95687

Discussion · 13 comments

  1. Magnus Hellström comment · on photo 1
    Hi! Nice photos, but I belive this is actually a Black-throated Accentor (Prunella atrogularis) and not a Siberian. First winter individuals sometimes lack the black throat (hidden under pale fringes). See photos here. A Siberian would have been more brightly and contrastingly patterned in both head and breast.
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  2. Аскар Исабековfounder comment · on photo 1
    Dear Magnus. Thank you for your interest to our site. About the Accentor on photos: 1. unfortunately I have never seen Siberian Accentor alive but I sent the request to professional ornithologists and they answered me that the bird on photos is definitely Siberian Accentor. 2. Your argument that some first-winter Black-throated Accentors have the pale fringes of fresh feathers which hide the black throat is really important, but I would like to pay your attention to the fact that the photos were made not in summer or autumn but in spring when the pale fringes of feathers would have been worn out but the throat of the bird looks very light.
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  4. Андрей КоваленкоexpertExpert
    confirms identifications     comment · on photo 3
    Правда, по ссылке птица в названии фотографии подписана неправильно...)
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  5. Василий Федоренко comment · on photo 3
    По ссылке не сибирская завирушка, а Prunella strophiata.
    А эта.. второе фото поглядите, там все видно.
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  6. Андрей КоваленкоexpertExpert
    confirms identifications     comment · on photo 3
    Я знаю. А что там видно на второй фото...?
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  7. Василий Федоренко comment · on photo 2
    Видно, что горло гораздо бледнее грудки, да и немного черноты просматривается. Видмо, это все же P. a. atrogularis. А вообще, такое белое брюхо согласуется с сибирской?
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  8. Андрей КоваленкоexpertExpert
    confirms identifications     comment · on photo 2
    Да, я вот нашел ну очень похожую номинальную черногорлую...
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  10. Олег Белялов comment · on photo 2
    Василий прав. Только теперь увидел горло и оно "кричит", что это черногорлая завирушка. Скорее не наша, а номинативная
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  13. Панов Андрей comment · on photo 2
    эта птичка больше похожа на черногорлую номинативную сибирскую мне приходилось держать в руках и не раз признаков черноты нет иблизко
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